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Old 27-05-2022, 01:36   #2491
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees View Post
We managed to change prime minister during ww2 certainly once,
perhaps twice ? and we of course were directly involved in that
Yes but take into consideration what happened.

As regards Chamberlain. He is best known for his foreign policy of appeasement, and in particular for his signing of the Munich Agreement on 30 September 1938, ceding the German-speaking Sudetenland region of Czechoslovakia to Nazi Germany led by Adolf Hitler. Following the German invasion of Poland on 1 September 1939, which marked the beginning of the Second World War, Chamberlain announced the declaration of war on Germany two days later and led the United Kingdom through the first eight months of the war until his resignation as prime minister on 10 May 1940. (the majority of which referred to as the "phoney war")

Winston Churchill was appointed First Lord of the Admiralty on 3 September 1939, the day that the United Kingdom declared war on Nazi Germany. He succeeded Neville Chamberlain as prime minister on 10 May 1940 and held the post until 26 July 1945.

VE day was 8 May 1945.

VJ day was 15 August 1945

So yes, you are correct in 3 Prime Ministers, one for 8 months, one for 5 Years and one for 2 months.

Now consider why 3 Prime Ministers.

First Chaimberain. An appeaser who accomplished nothing, did not stop the war and (it could be argued) gave Hitler the confidence to continue his expansion of his armed forces and go to war against Poland.

So why Chrchill, why him considering Chaimberlain and wanted Lord Palmestom as his successor.being the appeaser that he was Lord Palmestom refused as he knew Paliament would have objected so who was left?

That famous war mongeror Winston Churchill. Even King George wasn't happy in the beginning but that changed eventually.

Winston then lead the country with a coalition Governmentr until Vicctory in Europe was decclared. For some reason that was disbanded (I don't know by whom) and election was called even though our forces were still at war with the Japenese, our forgotten army and agree with them. I've met many over the years.

So, tell me who should Boris should be replaced by who would not be anRussian apologist or appeser? Both Germany (who should know bwtter) and France and indeed some in the US who think agereeing to Russian claims in the Donbas and other areas is the way for peace. It didn't work with Hitler and it won't work with Putin.

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So,as regards Ukraine where sholud we do now? IMHO suppliy them with whatever they need to actually drive Russia out of Ulraine.
Thet are crying out for long range artillery to go on the offensive and I have no doubt they can do it if the equipment was supplied.
I'll leave you with this brilliant analisys. (note she says the ISW has witheld info as well as other strategists).


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