Thread: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader
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Old 24-05-2022, 12:33   #2363
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post

If you think that table of booze did not suggest a party was imminent or in progress, I would have difficulty in trusting in your eyesight or common sense.
Don't be ridiculous, Andrew. It is quite normal for organisations to have a fairwell presentation with alcohol to send them off. As such, it would have been regarded as a work event, but clearly once doneand with the speeches over, a number of them appear to have stayed on and it became a social event, which explains why only some of them were fined. Certainly, by all accounts, the PM made his 20 minute speech and then returned to his work.

I know that you are looking for any excuse to see the PM stripped of his office, but a little bit of logic and perspective would not go amiss in your posts on this subject.

If the Gray report findings are different to what I have described, I will certainly reassess, but you have already made up your mind. In your desperation, you will be calling for an inquiry into the police investigation next.

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Let’s face it, if 4 bottles of wine, 3 bottles of champagne and a bottle of gin on your desk shouts “normal day at the office” to you, you have a whole other set of problems.
Weren't there quite a few people at this event - about 60, I believe? So, no, that was not an excessive amount of alcohol.

So, given that the PM wasn't fined, the police are wrong now, are they?

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
The phrase “I was told” is standard ministerial weasel wording, used precisely when said minister is saying stuff they know could well be untrue, so that if it eventually hits the fan they can claim they weren’t lying because they were misled.
I don't care what you call it, that is what he told parliament, and if he took that advice on board, how did he lie?

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Johnson's two little helpers in action again here I see. The Express journalists must be cringing as they report the story as stating that the Met found Johnson broke no rules. Meanwhile, the Mail pretends nothing happened as it focuses on the implications of a possible rail strike.
The Mail is right to be reporting the real news.
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