Originally Posted by Pierre

So, if (and I know it’s an if, might even be a when) Starmer does get fined, then it’s no longer whataboutery - it is indeed hypothetical.

But when Johnson was only being investigated, and his fine was hypothetical, Starmer called for his resignation.

By Starmers own self standard, he should resign.

He won’t, I don’t think he should, but by his own standard…..his….no one else’s…..his own demands…..he should have already gone.