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Old 21-05-2022, 14:42   #2269
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
If he lies to his wives, lies (and denies) about his children, lies in his leadership campaign, lies in the party manifesto, lies to Parliament, lies to our international partners - it's quite astonishing that the people who think we are better off without Johnson are the idiots.

A Tory leader of even moderate competence, with limited credibility, right now would surely be better to lead us through the cost of living crisis?

They're not a football team - the personal affinity some seem to have for Johnson (especially given his personal flaws outlined in sentence one) is quite astonishing. What makes people believe he will lie to everyone else but not them?

This is the man that had two versions of the story ready to go in favour of remaining and leaving the EU until he decided which was the most politically expedient for his career aspirations.
You do like twisting things, don’t you, jfman? It has been explained many times before that he wrote one article for and one against to compare the arguments of both sides, and it helped him to make the correct decision.

Sorry to destroy the illusion you were trying to trick people into believing, but it is always wise to seek the truth.

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Originally Posted by Mick View Post
Well, we have a leader of the opposition struggling with honesty too, so Labour’s ploy to stoke this up as a scandal, is a bit pathetic.
Yes, and as I pointed out earlier, Starmer’s offence is graver than Boris’s, because this beer event was after work, not during work as BJ’s was.
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