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Old 20-05-2022, 13:02   #2249
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
The only person more spineless than Johnson is OB in this thread.

Compare and contrast with Seph who at least wants a Conservative leader worthy of looking up to. A liar. Completely untrustworthy. Unworthy of the office of which he holds forever diminishing the UK sphere of influence and credibility.
I don’t call standing up against all the sanctimonious rubbish that people are spouting on about on this forum as ‘spineless’. It takes some courage to stand up to bullying behaviour such as is frequently demonstrated here.

I respect Seph’s opinion - he’s not a fan of Boris either - but I profoundly disagree with people who are deliberately hyping this up out of all proportion just because they see Boris as a threat to their left wing ‘sensitivities’ (or should I say to Labour’s chances of winning the next election).

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post

Nothing to do with a decade of failed macroeconomic policy or Brexit, of course.
It’s to do with the 2010 recession sparked by Labour’s failure to bolster the economy during the good times and the austerity that necessarily followed, Covid and the Ukraine war.

Without those last two events, the benefits of Boris’s manifesto promises would be starting to be clear by now.

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post

To… have a plan?

Your continual portrayal of Government as a completely passive actor unable to intervene. The unfortunate victim of circumstances upon which it has no control is simply laughable.

The portrayal of spending as a “leftie” principle is as obnoxious as it is ludicrous. It’s been proven time and again you can’t save your way out of a recession and - as living standards are falling at the highest rate for 40 years - we have a Government devoid of leadership, devoid of authority and completely devoid of ideas.
You are so hilarious, jfman! You really ought to be on the stage.

However, I must ask you…what exactly is Starmer’s plan?

I know - he’ll have a ponder with his mates over a beer after work in the hope that someone can come up with something to replace hindsight.
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