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Old 29-04-2022, 15:48   #1570
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Mick View Post
Putin has blundered massively, my own uptake, feel free to agree or disagree:

On February 24th, Putin ordered his illegal invasion, as reports came out of missile strikes hitting multiple cities in Ukraine, we knew then the war was on.

The plan was to decapitate the Ukrainian government & literally kill President Zelenskyy, doing this damages morale of all Ukrainians, so Russia’s attempts to seize Kyiv, and install its own pro-Russian government, this in effect would have made Ukrainian resistance collapse & and Putin gambled, he would have had toppled and taken Ukraine within the week.

A spectacular blunder of huge proportions. Ukraine is a massive European country, with a huge military army, it’s not going to lie down for the Russians and they didn’t, they doubled down, no tripled down. The show of defiance from Zelenskyy, has boosted the morale of the entire country.

Russia didn’t count for this defiance and they certainly didn’t expect to lose one of their navel strategic assets, missile cruiser, Moskva. The Russians are still putting together, Fake News, about ammunition exploding on board, causing the sinking. Ukraine claims, it struck the vessel with its Neptune missiles, U.S official and other key western allies, obviously believe the Ukrainian version.

My view is, because of the way Putin leads his country, with literal cold fascist style governance, much like Hitler. Hitler’s downfall was his paranoia and it will be Putin’s.

Trouble is, when Hitler was cornered, he fled to his mountain. He didn’t have one last throw of the dice in the form of Nukes. If he had them, he would have used them.

The U.S and other key NATO countries are beginning to believe, though this could still be a big mistake, that Putin is bluffing when he says, he’ll use them. My view is that when he finally sees he is defeated in Ukraine, let’s hope his henchmen do first and strike with a coup, but failing this, he’ll use a small scale Nuke, he’s that mad enough and he absolutely won’t accept defeat, neither will his own country and he knows that.
My view is not much has changed since WWII, let's cut to the bs about nazis and spheres of influence, the reason he invaded was because a prosperous Ukraine on the boarder would make Russians think why can't we have that and topple Vlad and his chums cushy lives, it's why there is more troops and security services in Russia keeping the population in check than their is in Ukraine and it was the same 75 odd years ago, thousands of Soviet soldiers who were in any way impressed with German houses compared to their own hovels were sent to the gulag.

I think you're right, I think he expected Zelenskyy to flee and the country to collapse, I suspect we did to given the Anericans offered to fly Zelenskyy out.

I think it'll have to be his henchmen that topple him, it's why I thought it such a good idea to go after their wives and children with sanctions, can't see the Russian people rising up to do it like they did 100+ years ago and that'll lead to a bit of nose holding when it comes to dealing with his successor

I've quoted this book before WWIII by General Sir John Hackett, it's a future history written in the 70's, he's frighteningly accurate about the collapse of the Soviet Union in terms of events and timeline right up until Gorbachev, he had rabid hardliners in charge and on the brink of collapse they invaded Germany and get bogged down much like they have in Ukraine and as a final act of lunacy launch a tactical Nuke on Birmingham, we had to retaliate by dropping one on Kiev...
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