[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Old Boy, disappointingly, you're still doing precisely what Chris outlined earlier - trying to be on both sides of the barrier.

You can either try and defend Johnson (as you have done above above) or you can say wait until the Sue Gray report. You can't do both.

And if you're taking the approach of waiting upon due process, calling the fact that Starmer was cleared of any wrong doing an excuse shows that you won't respect due process if the outcome doesn't confirm to your pre-judgments anyway.

It comes across to me that you're not genuinely signed up to this wait until the Sue Gray report philosophy. You're just using it to try and bat away criticism of the No 10 parties.

This is a compound situation on several fronts.

First, there’s OB and his preference not to throw stones at Boris unless the Sue Gray report indicts Boris.

Then there’s Boris who, conscious of his public image, may well have sought advice as to how far he could go in his own home. The CPS will undoubtedly give weight to the”his home” factor.

Then there’s the fact that Boris did know about the parties going on in his home. Sue Gray ought to have found out whether or not Boris queried the legality of such parties; that makes a difference. In any case, he should have put a stop to it after the first non-attending party of which he became aware.

I now expect OB to reply “Well said, Seph”.