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Added to the ones reclaimed by their farmers, Ukraine is going to have more serviceable tanks than the Russians …
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They've captured more than tanks. Here's a list of documented equipment either destroyed, abandonded by Russinh troops or captured ny Ukrainian forces. It is updated daily although today they announced a backlog they are still working through (on twitter) since yesterday. This could be due to the evidence of more since the Russian retreat.
They also list Ukrainian losses in the same way.
https://www.oryxspioenkop.com/2022/0...equipment.html
An interesting report from Forbes in Dec 2019 Re Ukrainian T64'a and Russian T64's and later models, T72's, T80's, etc.
Don't worry it's short.
Obviously from before the current situation.
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Ukraine’s Tanks Could Be Better Than Russia’s. It Might Not Matter.
The Russian army has massed around 1,200 tanks for a possible invasion of Ukraine. The tanks include the latest T-90s plus upgraded T-72s.
Across the border, the Ukrainian army has mobilized its own armor for a possible defensive campaign. Ukraine possesses some of the same tank models that Russia does, but Kiev’s best tank—an updated T-64—is uniquely Ukrainian.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidax...ht-not-matter/
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In Soviet doctrine, which the Russian and Ukrainian armies both follow, tanks rarely fight tanks. But if and when Russia overtly invades Ukraine and sharply escalates the seven-year, frozen conflict in eastern Ukraine, tanks on both sides will play key roles in offense and defense, helping to shape the battlefield so that the decisive force—artillery—can do its terrible work.
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Russia ,sort of, admits genocide via official news agency. Here's a snippet but if you really care it is a long one but lays it all out.
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RIA NOVOSTI has clarified Russia’s plans vis-à-vis Ukraine and the rest of the free world in a program like article: What Russia should do with Ukraine?
Back in April last year, we wrote about the inevitability of the denazification of Ukraine. We do not need Nazi (read Ukrainian), Bandera type of Ukraine (read Ukrainian), as the enemy of Russia and the West’s tool for the destruction of Russia. Today, the issue of denazification has moved into a practical landscape.
Denazification is necessary when a significant part of the people – most likely the majority – has been mastered and drawn into the Nazi policy in its politics. That is, when the hypothesis “the people are good – the government is bad” does not work. Recognition of this fact is the basis of the policy of denazification, of all its measures, and the fact itself is its subject matter.
Ukraine is in just such a situation. The fact that the Ukrainian voter voted for the “peace of Poroshenko” and “peace of Zelensky” should not be misleading – the Ukrainians were quite satisfied with the shortest path to peace through the blitzkrieg, which the last two Ukrainian presidents transparently hinted at when they were elected. It was this method of “appeasement” of internal anti-fascists – through total terror – that was used in Odessa, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Mariupol, and other Russian cities. And this quite suited the common Ukrainian. Denazification is a set of measures in relation to the nazified population mass, which technically cannot be subjected to direct punishment as war criminals.
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https://ccl.org.ua/en/news/ria-novos...ith-ukraine-2/