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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Nothing angry at all about my response at all but that’s generally your take when you’re put in a position that your uncomfortable with answering.
Consider this in good faith, how many more innocent civilians have to die before your conscience turns to accept that we need to intervene militarily? How many more innocent civilians have to be shelled whilst trying to evacuate ? How many more hospitals have to be bombed? How much deadlier does the weaponry used have to be?
There’s no evidence whatsoever to suggest that putin will stop at Ukraine, he and western intelligence reports have stated that this is the beginning.
Do you want to wait until he’s on our doorstep before you decide intervention is required ?
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Whereas your general approach is to ramp up the pomposity while convincing yourself (but few others) that you somehow occupy the moral high ground in any discussion.
Yes, you are being angry ranty, and it’s leading you to assume that the effectiveness of an intervention may be measured by how big an explosion it makes.
The sanctions regime is unprecedented and it will bring Russia to a halt in time. A military intervention by Nato, however, will not bring Russia down, it will escalate the conflict. The clear risk in your favoured approach is not fewer casualties but more. I’d ask if your conscience can deal with that but it’s abundantly clear to me that you haven’t even thought through those possibilities.
Nato is a defensive alliance, created specifically to defend Nato member states against Russia. The worst thing we could possibly do right now is give Putin what he wants, which is evidence he can show his people that Nato is willing to act with direct military aggression against Russia when it has not attacked a Nato member. There are any number of occasions in the past when the USA and Russia (or the USSR) could have come into direct conflict but the reason why they always have not is that both sides are extremely nuclear armed and the risks of escalation are to the entire world.
Thankfully, you only get to express your supposed moral superiority from your armchair where there’s little chance of precipitating a global catastrophe.