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Old 09-03-2022, 12:16   #923
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter View Post
Just been claimed on TV that some adult children in Ukraine have telephoned their parents in Russia to tell them what's going on and they don't believe them!

They must be so brainwashed that they believe Russian propaganda over their own offspring!!!
Jeremy Vine interviewed two Russians settled in the UK at the beginning of the week on his lunchtime show on Radio 2. Both said the same. Many Russians in Russia have completely swallowed Putin's propaganda line and simply won't believe even members of their own family who can see what's really going on. Such are the family tensions in some instances that they have all agreed not to talk about it, though I don't know how sustainable that's going to be as sanctions really start to bite ordinary Russians.

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Originally Posted by jonbxx View Post
We just had an update from our management at work on the situation. Local staff in Ukraine have all been evacuated to neighbouring countries. The feedback from Russia based staff is that they are not happy in the slightest with Russias' invasion of Ukraine (hooray for end to end encryption of calls allowing them to speak honestly!)

The company I work for sells products which are dual use technologies and they have been blocked form day one but now all products are blocked from shipment as a policy and also because Russian customers have very few ways to pay for these goods. There's also an information embargo so no support for existing products. Russia are essentially persona non grata
It's always heartening to hear of Russians who *do* understand they're being lied to. I guess it's unsurprising in this case as these are the ones who routinely work with people based in other countries, and they're having conversations grounded in facts, figures and business strategy, rather than occasional family chat. In the long term, the mismatch between what their government tells them the world is like, and what their work colleagues are really like, must be impossible to ignore.
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