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**Hugh** · 07-03-2022, 22:04

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Originally Posted by Jaymoss

But it could slow hm down and get him out and about long enough for a joint intelligence operation to put a bullet in his head

Real life isn’t a Tom Clancy book…

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Just the last country on the list. The UK and US have not violated Ukraine's territory.

And Gorbachev is on record as being happy for Poland etc to join NATO in case you're eluding to that particular myth espoused by Putin and his friends.

As was posted in this thread on the 24th February

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Originally Posted by Hugh

Refutation of the common misconception (mentioned by Vlad in his "justification of invasion" speech) that NATO would not expand Eastward.

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The topic of ‘NATO expansion’ was not discussed at all, and it wasn’t brought up in those years. … Another issue we brought up was discussed: making sure that NATO’s military structures would not advance and that additional armed forces would not be deployed on the territory of the then-GDR after German reunification. Baker’s statement was made in that context… Everything that could have been and needed to be done to solidify that political obligation was done. And fulfilled.”

“The agreement on a final settlement with Germany said that no new military structures would be created in the eastern part of the country; no additional troops would be deployed; no weapons of mass destruction would be placed there. It has been obeyed all these years.”

This statement is from someone who was there, and instrumental in the treaty negotiations - Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev...

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-fr...achev-says-no/

This article is from over 7 years ago, so history is not being "rewritten" to justify current events (unlike with Putin's speeches).