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Old 07-03-2022, 21:10   #783
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Re: Russia has invaded Ukraine

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Originally Posted by Mick View Post
Are you joking?
He already has Crimea
The two other provinces he already had, in regards that Ukraine wasn’t in charge of them and he was funding rebels.
If he agrees to immediately withdraw then no further military action is required, anyway.

The only actual demand that is required onerous is the change in the constitution that effectively bars them from joining the EU and NATO.

I think to end it, that is a price worth paying as there are ways around it going forward.

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So Ukraine just let’s Putin think he’s won, Putin can’t be seen to lose and he’s lost this war, sure he’s got a massive nuclear arsenal but that’s no good to him, when it involves Armageddon. So he’s now got to save face and he has to walk away with some kind of win to stay in power.
That is absolutely the case.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf View Post
I wouldn't accept them.
They may not have a choice

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Originally Posted by pip08456 View Post
I don't think Ukraine will either. Perhaps a counter would be to allow Russia to lease the Crimea naval base.
Why would Russia lease it when it’s been in their possession for 8 yrs?
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