[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Chris

They might. On the other hand, civilisations in Asia, comparable to those of South America prior to European contact, managed not to invent any of those things for 1,000s of years. It is at least as likely that had these people remained isolated, they would be the same now as they were 500 years ago.

Hugh and Chris would have us sleep walking into being overrun by an incompatible culture. Their arguments suppose there is no Saudi or similar long term plan; my argument supposes that there is a long term plan for Islam to take over.

There are no facts to prove me wrong - only opinions. Vigilance, my friends.