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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Of course, there was no deception by remainers, was there? I struggle to think of a single prediction of theirs that has come true so far.
Forget that poll. It is not a true representation of what the people of this country think. Not only that, but some are having understandable doubts owing to the uncertainty about so many things at the moment, most of which are nothing to do with Brexit. When the dust settles, people will regain their confidence.
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Economists at the time of the referendum didn't make predictions. They couldn't because they didn't know what kind of Brexit we would get. Would we get something like an EEA membership, as proposed by Farage at the time, or would we get the No Deal Brexit that he was really after? Few would have anticipated the pig's ear of a Brexit we actually got. Instead of predictions, economists and leading Remainers proposed scenarios. The worst was a No Deal scenario where our economy would suffer the most after we left the EU. An average 8% GDP loss across the country within 10 years of leaving seemed likely. (Some areas such as the NE might get a 16% loss) The best was an EEA Brexit where the loss to GDP might only be 2% over 10 years. Corbyn's proposed customs union Brexit would be slightly worse than that.
The Leave press decided to take those scenarios, spin them as predictions and cherrypicked the worse. This left people like you believing that Remain had predicted 8% GDP as soon as we left the EU. No such claim was made. Given that we have only been out of the EU 2 years, we haven't had time for the effects to embed yet. Until we left at the end of January 2020 our economy benefited all round from business with the EU as usual. The decline of an economy is by a thousand cuts, not overnight.
The signs aren't good though. The effect of the massive increase in red tape, something the leave campaign hid from you, has led to a 2% decline in trade with the EU, factoring out Covid-19. At the moment, no deals come close to replacing that. A deal with India may happen if we accept their demand for increased immigration from India. A deal may happen with the USA if we accept their demand to sell us poor quality meats and GM crops and to get their commercial hands on our valued institutions like the NHS. They tried that with the EU, when we were still members. The EU had the clout to say 'No'.
Meanwhile, Rees-Mogg is trying to find out what the sunny uplands of Brexit might look like by asking Sun readers. Bear in mind that he did say that it might take 50 years for the full benefits of Brexit to be realised. He hasn't made it clear what happens to the economy, and people's livelihoods and businesses in the meantime.
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