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Originally Posted by Mick
The problem I have with the apparently leaked email, the date of it has been totally obscured. We had nice weather in 2021 too. It’s just too convenient for the media to keep drip feeding these supposedly bombshell garden party stories.
I have to ever agree though, Boris’s time is spent, because true Conservatives, don’t feel the PM has been Conservative of late.
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I agree Johnson's days are numbered. But it was predicted at the time that he would be used by the Party to win the election, get Brexit over the line and then be replaced. The Brexit economic baggage could be left with Johnson ("not the fault of Brexit in itself, just a bad deal negotiated by Johnson") and a new leader would win the election for the Party in 2024.
But it's clearly not the media who are drip-feeding these stories to us as they don't possess a file of them in the first place! Instead, it's likely someone who was/is connected to government who is drip-feeding them to the media to undermine Johnson.
Mr K's suggestion that it is Cummings' advent calendar doesn't seem so far-fetched after all, does it?
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
My tin ear? [stands back in awe at the irony].
All I am pointing out here is that:
1. These ‘leaks’ are being given the light of day by Boris’s opponents who have no policies to put forward that are better than his. They see him as a popular figure who must be brought down, and so they resort to pettiness and smears.
2. All of this will matter not when the general election comes around. Anyone with a brain will understand that Sir Kier Starmer (AKA Mr Hindsight) has no chance of winning and Ed Davey a good deal less.
3. Boris is already off the hook with his decoration expenses and doesn’t seem to bothered about the party issue.
4. I don’t know a single person who hasn’t broken the lockdown rules in some way. You can say ‘but these are his rules’ as much as you like, but we all know he was pushed into making these rules by the same scientists you want us all locked down again. This time around, he has outmanoeuvred them. Starmer would have given in.[COLOR="Silver"]
It’s a storm in a teacup. It will pass. It’s a long time until the next General Election.
If Boris is guilty of an offence, I am sure he will be fined as well. Perhaps we should leave that to the police, eh, rather than being a judge and jury armchair army?
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This is a blue-on-blue fight, Old Boy.
The next election is two years away but Johnson won't be allowed to fight it. The Conservative Party is the most successful party in the UK if not the West in winning elections. One reason is that it displays little sentimentality towards its leaders. It would not have tolerated the electoral failings of a leader who polled like Corbyn. Its over-riding aim is to be in power, not in Opposition.
1. Why are you putting leaks in quotation marks? They are leaks, no ifs and buts. His opponents in the Party read the polls and see him as an unpopular figure who threatens their 2024 election chances. Breaking your own rules in such a significant manner is not a smear but a fact. This doesn't sit well with the general public who dislike one set of rules for the ruled and another set for the rulers.
2. The polls put Labour ahead so the Party has a good chance of winning if Johnson remains as PM. Which is why the Party will topple him.
3. He was bothered enough to throw Martin Reynolds to the wolves last night.
4. Not sure that an elected elite of scientists rule the country last time I checked my constitutional handbook! "...we all know he was pushed into making these rules by the same scientists you [sic] want us all locked down again" We don't, that's your unproven theory.
The PM can call upon the country's experts and then make an evidence-based decision in conjunction with his Cabinet colleagues.
5. It's no storm in a teacup, it's the dying spasms of Johnson's brief and turbulent leadership. He should do the honourable thing and resign although I am sure Labour supporters would love him to drag the show on to May 2024. You surely don't align yourself with them, Old Boy?