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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
It depends on what is meant by "sunlit uplands". Certainly there has to be a period of adjustment so that opportunities can be forged and subsequently exploited.
But to call Brexit "a grubby little project" misses the point of Brexit. The EU is inching forward, slowly but surely, into a federal state. Currently it is an association of independent states, but the directives and regulatory system is gradually strangling national independence - and this is now dawning on the various countries.
People absolutely did not buy and Brexit hyperbole; the 52% just wanted to get away from the tightening stranglehold.
Your misunderstanding of the public rational for Brexit is probably deliberate.
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You assume that everyone who voted did so based on politically ideology when the opposite is true. Most were promised a better future with no downside when all they have is a broken country run by crooks.
As time goes on and the fog of Covid clears, it will be these people, the ones who realise that they have been conned, that will be the ones that really suffer. The economic downside will manifest in reduced public services, lower quality food & environment standards, the list goes on.
The structural damage to the country in terms of societal divisions, generational betrayal, international reputation, empowering of latent racist & xenophobic views, etc. is significant and lasting.
A truely Pyrrhic victory.
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
There are no ‘facts’ to support your view that Brexit will not reverse our fortunes. The future hasn’t happened yet, and you don’t appear to understand the word ‘opportunity’.
Will you still be screaming about GDP from the rooftops when that changes into a positive figure?
Yeah, sure you will… 
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Yet again, you ignore the reality of what is happening now and focus on the illusory sunlit uploads. If all you can point to (yet again) is "opportunity", then you really did take the blue pill.
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Originally Posted by Chris
a referendum campaign in which both sides present what they see as the risks and opportunities inherent in voting for or against their proposition
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I do not remember the Leave campaign clearly & publicly presenting the inherent risks on leaving the EU