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Originally Posted by Carth
Papa actually says, and I quote " We have seen this so many times before" which rather hints at the past, not the present, although there are examples of it happening presently in some countries.
as for "working its way up the ladder" these things tend to start out small, then gather momentum until . . . well I'm sure you had some sort of history education at school 
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it's atempting to draw comparison to a particular period of time where there's no comparison to be drawn.
The only thing nearest possible comparison would be with the spanish flu, they had restrictions, guess what, they didnt last !!
'When a flu outbreak at a nearby military barracks first spread into the St. Louis civilian population, Starkloff wasted no time closing the schools, shuttering movie theaters and pool halls, and banning all public gatherings. There was pushback from business owners, but Starkloff and the mayor held their ground. When infections swelled as expected, thousands of sick residents were treated at home by a network of volunteer nurses.'
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
No more lockdowns! We have already established that lockdowns only slow down the virus until they end, then back it comes. Besides which, they ruin economies, and if people want better funding for the health service and the benefits system, and all the other public services, we need the economy to be thriving.
You also need to take account of the fact that getting our freedoms back is a big incentive to getting the vaccine. Take away that incentive, and a great number of people won’t bother anymore.
Our freedoms need preserving and these knee-jerk reactions to control people must stop. People will revolt in the end, big time. Is that what we want?
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As stated before, lockdowns were implemented to ensure that the NHS wasn't overwhelmed and wouldn't suffer collapse and to give the scientists time to develop vaccines.
Now, and as I've stated before, the only reason we will go back to lockdown is if a variant is discovered and spreads that is a) more transmissible than Delta b) causes more serious illness and death than Delta and c) has a significant immune or vaccine escape mechanism.
In such a scenario lockdown may be needed until such times as the scientists can get updated vaccines developed, tested, approved, manufactured and delivered into the arms of people. because guess what, should the above be true there's a risk of collapsing the NHS again.
If getting our freedoms back is a big enough incentive to getting the vaccine then why are so many people not having it? Countries have tried the carrot, there comes the time when the threat of a stick may need to be made.
Also, as said before, you're not free, you can't just do whatever you want, whenever you want.
The British as a nation are apathetic, they may break the rules but there wont be mass protests.