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Originally Posted by ianch99
You are basing your argument on the premise that a faith-less (or rather a faith-neutral) upbringing cannot be one based on a moral and ethical framework. You cannot (or do not want to) to accept this is possible. That's fine, that is your right.
You equate a faith-neutral upbringing as "nuts" but as the saying goes "you would say that". I understand your inability to accept the premise since your faith demands you must not but this does not invalidate the argument and more importantly, invalidate the proposition i.e. every person has the right to determine their own world view and not have one imposed upon them.
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No, I am not. Quite the opposite in fact. I am basing my argument on the fact that everyone, always, inculcates their children in a moral framework whether it is religious or not and whether they are aware that’s what they’re doing or not. You are “imposing” your world view on your children from the day they are born (an interesting word from someone who repeatedly complains about the pejorative nature of other people’s posts).
Children do not pick up grey shades and moral dilemmas from their parents; they do not pick up lists of alternative ethical approaches; they learn what to *do* based firstly on what they observe their parents doing, and later on questioning their parents for detail.
Claiming that this does not happen is nuts. Claiming you can avoid doing it is nuts. And ultimately, claiming that children should not be brought up with a faith but should only be presented with a series of alternatives from which they might choose in adulthood is nuts, because it completely fails to understand the dynamics and the reality of family life and bringing up children.