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Originally Posted by Jaymoss
You also got to factor in the fact that the majority of the public think and act like it has all gone away.
So as things are no one really struggles except the NHS. They are not important are ? ICU is not really that crucial is it? Well no, not until you get really sick with Covid or have a serious fall and head injury or suffer a stroke, break your back or have some sort of heart attack. Some hospitals are reporting ambulance queues of course not important unless it happens to be you or someone you care for needing one urgently and might die waiting ( not aimed at you but at everyone )
Of course I get the flamed for this kind of emotive post, I have before in this thread but I care about others, not just those I know I do not want anyone to suffer when it can be avoided
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Yes, but how far does this end up going? I get the point of saving lives but there is more to consider than that. And there is more to consider than covid pressures on the NHS, which always struggles due to seasonal viruses in winter, and with resources, waiting lists etc.
And how far do you lock down society because the NHS has issues doing its job (which aren't necessarily the fault of society but may be NHS internal politics) and where the actions taken or not probably won't have a huge impact on the NHS anyway.
Let's not forget that for now hospital admissions are nowhere near either the March/April 2020 peak, or the Oct-Feb peak, and are showing no signs other than flutter at the moment. Yes people will be going in with other things and yes partially this is a side effect of going back to normal as opposed to spending most of the time staying at home but it's down to the NHS to prioritise this.
If for example we have a hospital taking in a covid patient but they don't know it because they haven't tested them on admission and they're in for something else, or that they do have covid but don't isolate them, and they infect all the others around them, then the impact of this is not related to any actions or inactions taken outside the hospital, so any restrictions on the community in general would have done nothing to prevent this from happening, it was a failure in the admissions process not to have tested and isolated.
I think the reaction in general that it's largely over is totally understandable. Most people have supported measures, all 3 stay at home periods have been wholly justified, and disruptive on people's lives, livelihoods, mental health and who knows what else, for 18 months plus, and people have done the right thing following the rules (even though those setting them have been less keen to), staying at home, not socialising with their friends, not seeing friends and relatives at all, shopping from home, working from home, not visiting pubs and restaurants, wearing face coverings pretty much anywhere no matter how uncomfortable they are, acting like you have the virus to protect others, getting jabbed when it's your turn, all on the ticket of being sold freedom especially on the latter.
What you're saying isn't wrong at all - but it does fall under the trap of only looking at an isolated proportion of the response and its effects. Boris doesn't have that luxury.