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**Hugh** · 21-10-2021, 21:57

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Originally Posted by nffc

I'm pretty sure that it is included in the figure and always has been.

Can you provide a link, please?

I can see why it would be included in the "COVID patients in hospital" but not why it would be in "COVID patients admitted to hospital".

Update - found the definition

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/deta...ed-to-hospital

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Daily and cumulative numbers of patients admitted to hospital

Numbers of patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 on or up to the reporting date.

Data are not reported by each nation every day and Scotland's data are only published weekly. The definitions are not consistent between the four nations (see below).

England

England data include people admitted to hospital who tested positive for COVID-19 in the 14 days prior to admission, and those who tested positive in hospital after admission. Inpatients diagnosed with COVID-19 after admission are reported as being admitted on the day prior to their diagnosis.

I see what you mean…

Here’s the NHS definition, which feeds into the GOV U.K. stats.

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistic...ital-activity/

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A supplementary analysis of confirmed COVID-19 patients who are being treated primarily for COVID-19 can be found in the file below. Note that this covers acute providers only.

The majority of inpatients with Covid-19 are admitted as a result of the infection. A subset of those who contract Covid in the community and are asymptomatic, or exhibited relatively mild symptoms that on their own are unlikely to warrant admission to hospital, will then be admitted to hospital to be treated for something else and be identified through routine testing. However these patients still require their treatment in areas that are segregated from patients without Covid, and the presence of Covid can be a significant co-morbidity in many cases. Equally, while the admission may be due to another primary condition, in many instances this may have been as a result of contracting Covid in the community. For example research has shown that people with Covid are more likely to have a stroke (Stroke Association); in these cases people would be admitted for the stroke, classified as ‘with’ Covid despite having had a stroke as a result of having Covid.

The headline published numbers in publications to date have been “inpatients with confirmed Covid” without differentiating between those in hospital “for” Covid and those in hospital “with” Covid. Recognising the combination of high community infections rates, with the reduced likelihood of admission for those who contract Covid in the community and are fully vaccinated, the Covid SitRep was enhanced to add a requirement for providers to distinguish between those being primarily treated ‘for’ Covid and those ‘with’ Covid but for whom the primary reason for being in hospital was non-Covid related. In practice this distinction is not always clear at the point of admission when the patient’s record has not been fully clinically coded. In light of this trusts have been asked to provide this “for” and “with” split on a ‘best endeavours’ basis.