[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You are in purist mode, jfman. We do not live in a perfect world where everything is black and white.

Most of us are able to judge the arguments people make for themselves. We either accept them or reject them. Then we decide.

That’s just how it works.

I’m not even sure the point you are making, OB. Other than to seek to absolve the government of any responsibility for governing.

I agree that this doesn’t move us forward, but when I raise the point in answer the the moans of the reluctant remainers that this was a democratic decision, others, including your good self, keep making excuses about the way in which the debate was conducted. I am simply saying we need to accept that decision and the fact that Brexit has happened.

I have - I’m indeed at pains to stress I don’t see the value in rehashing the same debates over and over.

Instead of dwelling on the angst that remainers still feel about losing the argument, and the persistent cries of ‘We told you so’ from them when anything goes wrong, it would be rather more constructive if we turned our attention to how we addressed these transitional issues.

You don’t solve problems by constantly moaning about them and looking backwards. That won’t get us anywhere.

Perhaps there would be no cries of “we told you so” if indeed we had mitigated against foreseeable problems? If legitimate concerns of the transition - coming to fruition - weren’t dismissed as “remoaners” by those in favour that had no solutions.

I agree it won’t get anyone, anywhere. However it suits one side of the argument - the leave side - to bog everyone down in nationalistic hubris rather than own the problems arising from their haphazard implementation of one of the biggest policy shifts in any of our lifetimes.