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Old 01-10-2021, 10:18   #84
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Re: Labour Conference

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Originally Posted by Pierre View Post
He said it’s not right to say only women have cervix’s ( and the idiot Lammy had waded in and said the same)

Which is incorrect, only biological females have cervix’s, Trans-women do not.

Unless he meant that Trans-men can have a cervix, which is correct as they were born as biological women, but I don’t think that’s what he meant and it certainly isn’t what Lammy meant either.

Any it’s good to see him dealing with the issues that will help him win back the red wall, the trans-debate is a hot topic on the streets of Hartlepool.
Hi definition of women was for those who identify as women, yours is the more common biological definition. The Express, Sun, etc will have enjoyed the moment but the Party does seem to now be focusing on policies and not terminology which for most people doesn't get the bills paid.

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
The trans issue is fundamentally a toxic trap. I’m not sure who set it but it leaves Labour in contortions around language to not offend a tiny minority who have decided it’s important.

Quick win for the Tories. “Men are men, women are women, biological fact. We are more interested in jobs, covid recovery, make Brexit work, etc.”

97% of the population find one of those messages far more compelling than the other.
Good explanation.

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Labour, the party of Palestine and pronouns. Those red wall seats are in the bag.
Pronouns seem to be popular everywhere now from corporates to higher education so I think it's a genuine cultural shift.
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