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Old 23-09-2021, 23:29   #2587
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
I suspect a degree of consolidation in industries like fruit growing to take advantage of the economies of scale, coupled with investment in technology leading to a requirement for fewer, but somewhat skilled jobs, and multi-skilling of workers as they will need to stay with the business full time rather than be hired and fired seasonally. If any of this happens it will only be an extension of the trend already occurring in production of many salad items, which are increasingly produced in large, specialised and highly mechanised environments. The disincentive of doing this until now has been the ability of just anyone with a few fields and several hundred yards of PVC to throw up some poly tunnels and then pay Polish students per punnet when the strawberries are ripe.
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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
They’ll either put up wages (and prices!) or just cease trading.

Look at the entrepreneurial spirit of the energy companies. Joining the ranks of Carillon and half the train operating companies that have ever existed.

Whatever the merits of leaving the EU or otherwise the decision to rush the process benefits venture capital and asset management firms who get to enjoy the “once in a generation” opportunities to feed on the carcass of an economy in chaos.

There are no plans to upskill UK workers, no plans to raise wages, no plans to improve living standards, no plans to tax large multinationals on profits from income generated in the UK, no plans to improve public services. All of the things taking back control could and should have meant.

The reality is the main beneficiaries need none of these things as their capital remains mobile even if workers are not.
Is the correct answer imo, they'll put wages up hoping that the end user will buy British but they won't, they'll go for the cheapest option and it'll be foreign, I said the other day they'd be better of shutting the abattoirs and meat processing plants now rather than putting off the inevitable and nothings been said to change my mind, there might be a degree of automation brought into certain types of fruit and veg picking but not to the levels required to keep the industry functioning as it had been until recently. We won't have to worry about British workers filling these jobs because these jobs just won't be there and tbh I've never really got this arguhadment about British workers doing these jobs, we had as near 100% employment as was economically healthy and whilst there's always Shirkers and work shy there wasn't that many really, why shouldn't British workers aim higher than these jobs?
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