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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
To remind the likes of MrM:
1. By a narrow but distinct majority, the UK voted to leave the UK.
2. The Leave campaign made stupid claims; the Remain campaign tried to instil fear.
3. The public's vote was clearly made on their own behalf and, in the Leave case, not on the campaign.
4. The UK PM, Theresa May was a Remainer who became obsessed with the GFA. She was also very weak, allowing the EU to dictate how the negotiations were to be conducted.
5. She negotiated the Withdrawal Agreement which included the NI Protocol. This negotiation was imposed on Boris Johnson.
6. Boris and his Cabinet needed to balance a number of factors, in no particular order:
- Deal or no deal?
- What would his cabinet support?
- What would Parliament support?
- What would meaningful public reaction be?
7. The Guvmin eventually decided to do a deal based on Frost's negotiations. Ignoring Boris' hyperbole, the deal comprised 2 principal elements:
- A tariff-free deal
- The inherited NI Protocol and all the issues we now see
8. This brings us to where we are now.
It has been mooted, in one form or another, by at least two distinguished members that the Guvmin took the view that if it worked well, then all is good and if not, then either the NI Protocol could be renegotiated or it could be ditched - the latter being a very fraught option. I support what has been mooted.
There are at least two Remainers who drone on about the UK having to meet its international obligations. One of them goes so far as to more or less say that we made our bed in the Referendum and now we're having to lie in it. However events will unfold in NI. Such as:
- The NI Executive will fold as threatened by the DUP - a highly ardent lot
- There may or not be civil unrest in NI but it will not be good there
- A return to direct rule might happen - that at least, if wisely executed, might help
- For reasons given by Chris, the EC won't budge on 3 customs forms per sandwich
- New elections in NI could go either way!
The whole thing is a total mess. The Guvmin must firmly, publicly and sincerely lay it on the line to the EU that the NI Protocol and associated customs rules must be adjusted to fit the UK's sovereign status, of which NI is a part.
Btw, one interim solution is to extend the grace period to 4 years (won't happen) so that Stormont can take the vote that's in the agreement allowing them to confirm or reject the NI Protocol.
I've tried to keep this rational factual and reasonably impartial - except:
MrM's hysterics are "I told you so" sound bites of no value that contribute nothing to solving the problem.
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This is Brexit, this is what you voted for. Boris didn’t have to accept the deal (or did he)
Stop whinging you little crybaby
PS absolutely no hysterics here
PPS would you like me to clean your dummy for you?