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nomadking · 07-09-2021, 11:22

The private sector tripled capacity in the space of a decade. The demand must've been there. That freed up local authority places for those that really needed them.
The standards in private sector places must have been higher than council run places, as people were expected to pay for it. Taking over council run homes wouldn't have been a real option, they wouldn't have been good enough. So were council care homes sold off? Or is it a baseless rant? How many were simply moved out of hospitals? IIRC Where I once lived(late 1970s) there was a large geriatric hospital, it is now a more general type of hospital.
A big reason for the shift in council to private, wasn't selling off of council run homes, but shifting costs from councils to the benefit system which paid for the private care instead.

The predicted increase in demand(doubling?) in the next couple of decades is huge. Who is going to provide that?
if a person, in different circumstances, could be cared for at home by relatives, doesn't that mean they are not really an NHS matter and not necessarily provided for free. As in the 1980s where funding increasingly came from the benefits system, doesn't that also indicate it isn't an NHS matter.

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nomadking cf.mega poster Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Northampton Services: Virgin Media TV&BB 350Mb, V6 STB Posts: 8,152	Re: This NI increase for Social/Health Care The private sector tripled capacity in the space of a decade. The demand must've been there. That freed up local authority places for those that really needed them. The standards in private sector places must have been higher than council run places, as people were expected to pay for it. Taking over council run homes wouldn't have been a real option, they wouldn't have been good enough. So were council care homes sold off? Or is it a baseless rant? How many were simply moved out of hospitals? IIRC Where I once lived(late 1970s) there was a large geriatric hospital, it is now a more general type of hospital. A big reason for the shift in council to private, wasn't selling off of council run homes, but shifting costs from councils to the benefit system which paid for the private care instead. The predicted increase in demand(doubling?) in the next couple of decades is huge. Who is going to provide that? if a person, in different circumstances, could be cared for at home by relatives, doesn't that mean they are not really an NHS matter and not necessarily provided for free. As in the 1980s where funding increasingly came from the benefits system, doesn't that also indicate it isn't an NHS matter.