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Originally Posted by Aye Up
I'm against it, not because I don't favour tax increases per se....but that current proposals argue towards the 25m that work and spare pensioners.
It is a reality that when you reach state retirement age (currently 66) you cease paying NI thus your costs decrease by at leat 10%.
Yet at least half of those that might need social care are pensioners, why is it the rest of the working population should be poorer to provide this kind of care for many of them?
I don't buy into this nonsense that they have paid in all their lives, they were never promised to be personally looked after or live as long.
For me the contrat has changed, people are living longer and need to accept and contribute towards that.
I'm in my late 30s, with no children and its likely I will have paid in more as a percentage of my lifetime income that pensioners of today.......why should I be poorer as a result to fund the care they might need when they wont?
The reality is that young people now only just about afford to rent, yet they seemingly face being poorer to fund social care for pensioners who want to avoid a bill so they can pass on their home to their family.
I'm sick to death of being expected to bear the costs of the silver generation they did not plan for.
Lets be real here, social care needs are a white problem where white families outsource the care to other people....its very much a privilige matter.
For me its a red line, I have no issue to pay more in NI but so must those post 66!
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So what do you expect them to do ? Live in their own filth and die a nasty lonely death?
We live in a capitalist society that dictates every costs something. What really needs to happen is some sort of revolution where there is a massive redistribution of wealth or at least everyone just play fair and pay your taxes. If the likes of Amazon and Mac Ds paid their bill instead of finding ways to pay as little as possible then the coffers would be full and things would be a lot different but alas I know it is pie in the sky
As I have said before this is a middle class forum. Very easy to say they should have planned for it while you can afford to dine out on lobster sleep is the highest thread count Egyptian cotton sheets holiday in Barbados twice a year and afford the full VIP pack off Virgin media. Many do not have that kind of income and never did
Plus for all you know you may need specialist care yourself one day costing £600+ a week. Your well thought out savings will soon dwindle then
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Originally Posted by Taf
I'd be pressing the private care homes to justify the insane charges they demand for care.
At the start of the pandemic, private homes were screaming poverty, saying they were unable to pay for PPE which they should have had in use already for the most vulnerable.
And meanwhile the greatest number of deaths were occurring on their premises, with minimum-wage workers moving from site-to-site several times a day, often carrying the virus.
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I have done IT work for one and as part of it I had to transfer their accounts from one computer to another and got to see what they charge ( had to view some to check it had worked and was supervised so all above board) and it is a crazy amount