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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Agreed. Citing willful optimism as your source doesn't cut it for me.

As a reminder, Johnson did not say that the deal was not great. He said it was “a good deal for the whole of Europe”.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...nouncement-evg

Yes, but we were where we were. And given where we were, it was the best deal that could be achieved. You remember very well, I am sure, that he was very critical of the May deal, which gave too much away. But starting again from scratch was not an option.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

According to many Leave advocates, we would still be in the Single Market.

More old ground. I thought we had established way back that if we remained in the single market, we would not be leaving Europe. This is a point that even many politicians didn't grasp at the beginning of the process.

Had anyone said to me that we would be staying in the Single Market, I would have asked why we were trying to 'leave' at all, because this would have been disadvantageous to us without reaping the benefits of Brexit.

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Originally Posted by jfman

My memory serves me perfectly well. It’s a fine Belgian beer this evening.

If you genuinely believe that, as opposed to just being contrary, I’d seriously consider a man of your age speaks to your GP.

I was just bigging you up as a man of taste when I mentioned the champagne, but now you've ruined that image.

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Originally Posted by jfman

How ironic.

Between NI and the Republic, jfman. You know, like what happens now.