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Old 02-09-2021, 13:20   #2226
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees View Post
Nope, Boris had the ability & the numbers when the Tories took their landslide election victory to take us out on no deal.
It's somewhat perplexing that those professing a need for greater sovereignty don't understand the difference between a hung Parliament and a Parliament with an 80-seat majority.

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i think this thoughtful article neatly summarises where the country is at on Brexit.
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Happily for the Tories, there is no pressure from the opposition. Keir Starmer wants to woo back voters who abandoned his party because they felt it had stopped listening to them on the whole suite of issues relating to the referendum, from immigration control to the democratic principle of honouring the result once the votes had been counted. That relationship will not be fixed with lectures on the enduring folly of Brexit. Labour sees no route back to power treading the European side in arguments that Johnson can frame in terms of national dignity.

British politics still has remainers and leavers, but those labels tend to describe emotional attachments, not policy prescriptions. Pro-Europeans are not interested in fixing Johnson’s deal, which they see as irredeemable; and leavers cannot concede that their fundamental premise was flawed. Neither side is yet ready to work with the banal reality that Brexit is an unspectacular failure: neither triumph, nor apocalypse. It is the damp smell in British politics that can be endured, but not quite ignored. The longer it is left untreated, the more expensive it will be to fix.

But there is no realistic conversation about the relationship Britain should have with the rest of Europe, if not the one it has now; and the relationship it has now is the product of avoiding realistic debate for decades. As a result, the government – and perversely the opposition too – is committed to the task of finding a purpose in something that will keep proving itself pointless.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...elves-empty-eu
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