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Old 16-08-2021, 18:10   #1992
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
- we have democratically elected institutions;
- we have free, fair, open elections and universal suffrage.

By any global standard our democratic processes are more than up to the task of giving the people a voice in who governs and how they behave.

Examples of the electorate making judgments you (or the daddy) consider inadequate … well that just begins to sound a teensy bit like the sort of patronising nonsense that was sadly all too common from remain campaigners in 2016. It seems some Europhiles really do think a technocratic government in a foreign country is what’s required to save them from stupid British voters who keep making poor decisions.

To reiterate the substantive point: regional development funding is a political issue, not a constitutional one. It will be solved by political means (either by the incumbent party or one elected to replace it), not by wholesale constitutional change. British voters deciding British issues, which was the entire point of Brexit. It really is that simple.
The substantive point is that regional funding actually got paid out by the EU when it was going it and the current government has broken its promises and not delivered on this. That's always been my point despite many attempts to take me on another path.

But issues like this in the absence of more trustworthy politicians can be obfuscated and TheDaddy gave you an example of how this is so. Inconvenient as it might be. To stipulate that matters are either perfect or that we need a foreign country to help reeks of playing to the audience when matters are far more nuanced.
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