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Old 05-08-2021, 14:55   #6858
jfman
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Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
The evidence is that a single Pfizer dose is very effective in this age group, and that a second dose presents a risk of complications (enlarged heart muscle being the principal concern). As always it’s a matter of balancing risk and reward.

You’re starting to sound a bit deranged though. Maybe go out for a walk in the fresh air?
Bet we give second doses once (if?) we have supply. Probably at a magical 22 weeks when some DHSC funded dubious research describes as “optimal”.

Time will tell. However no doubt the risk and reward balance will have shifted so they are still always right.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58091693

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The JCVI says one dose will still give children significant protection against Covid, especially if they have already caught the virus.

And that the high uptake in vulnerable older adults means it can afford to go more slowly, and wait for more evidence on the risks, in the young.
A longer gap between the two doses would lead to more protection in the end.

However, it looks unlikely they will be fully immunised before the return to school in September.
It’s almost comedy gold to see the mental gymnastics required to cover the supply side issues.

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Dr Peter English, former chair of the BMA public health medicine committee, queried why they had not gone further, sooner: "Why they did not recommend vaccinating 12 plus-year-olds outside risk groups in mid-July, and why it seems they will restrict their recommendation to people aged 16 plus today, are questions that remain unanswered to my satisfaction."
A very pertinent question. The MHRA have described it as “safe and effective” so which is it?

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"The moral failure... is to allow people to die around the world, whilst we vaccinate people who are at extremely low risk of of serious disease or death or even zero risk." - Prof Andrew Pollard, director of the Oxford Vaccine Group, who says teenagers should not be a priority when there are "plenty of other people who are at serious risk of death".
Maybe if Andy’s vaccine had higher efficacy we’d have hit the herd immunity threshold by now and not be relying on topping it up with millions of infections?

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