[jfman]

Originally Posted by Pierre

Why will there be covid outbreaks, if the vast, vast majority of people are vaccinated and stay vaccinated?

They get infected. Infected leading to varying outcomes including death.

All that’s happened is we have nudged the dial on these numbers. However as Hugh points out across the entire population that can still be a considerable number.

However in fairness you didn’t believe the original figures were enough to merit restrictions or lockdowns therefore it’s improbable that you’d reach a different, evidence based, conclusion this time.

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Originally Posted by pip08456

I think you are really referring to Scotland, not Britain. Little Jimmy Crankie is doing such a wonderful job.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-57712737

Exponential growth means they’ll catch up soon enough without mitigations.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

You’ll never stop the argument, Pierre. I don’t know whether they seriously do take this stance or are just spoiling for an argument. Even the government’s scientific advisors recognise that the benefits of ending the restrictions now outweigh the disbenefits, and that it is better to do it now rather than in the autumn.

I wonder why these same people are not campaigning to have men and women with red flags walking ahead of every car on the road, given the number of accidents causing death or serious injury each year on the roads.

In the UK, the number stands at 26,610 killed or seriously injured. I don’t hear those same people bleating on about that. We tolerate it because we need to get about and live our lives.

I can only think that the lockdown enthusiasts are on furlough or otherwise lead very boring lives.

Coming from the man who has offered the worst input consistently throughout the pandemic. You must be really bored to go out your way to come back with wholly inaccurate and speculative retorts so frequently. It’s ironic you accuse others of “spoiling for an argument” when nobody - anywhere in the thread - is advocating a lockdown.

What I’m assuring you is that it’s absolutely inevitable without any other mitigations in place to prevent the spread of the virus. As it always has been.