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					Originally Posted by  Sephiroth
					 
				 
				You miss the point, Andrew.  In fact, two points. 
 
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The EU, perhaps only for the most part, wants to federalise.  The UK people don't want that - certainly 52%.  Would you have wanted to be part of a federal  Europe? 
 
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The whole thing is rigged for Germany.  I've explained several time the way that Germany engineered the DM to Euro exchange rate.  Their overarching policy is economic domination.  Guess what a federal Europe dominated by Germany means?  Would you have wanted that? 
 
 
			
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 1/ Didn't care what the other countries may or may not have wanted to do but the UK was not on course to do this in 2015 nor did I want it to.
2/ Don't know enough about the history of this to comment. Certainly, I'm pleased we left the ERM and I've never wanted the Euro. 
I see our ideal position as somewhere between a full-on member like Germany and an affiliate like Switzerland. I thank we had the balance right before but we've now gone too far in the opposite direction but in time we will become closer.