14-06-2021, 13:05
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Re: Britain outside the EU
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Originally Posted by jonbxx
Back is December, you were saying that the EU blinked due to the threat of no deal from the UK;
So did the EU blink and sign up to a bad deal under threat of no deal, or did the UK? You seemed happy at the time of signing
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I don't think I was happy - I reported what the ST was saying.
But yes, at the time I thought that the EU had blinked but now I don't.
Boris was stupid.
On the Macron question, here's a paywall link and a quote: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...aign=DM1442332
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Emmanuel Macron has declared that Boris Johnson was “well aware” of “incoherences” in the Northern Ireland Protocol when he signed up to it, as the sausage trade row deepened on Sunday.
The French President used a press conference at the end of the three-day G7 summit in Cornwall to demand that the Prime Minister act “professionally” and respect the terms of the controversial mechanism.
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That article clearly shows how stupid Boris was to sign the Withdrawal Agreement. But it also shows that Macron is the enemy, who cannot even recognise UK territorial integrity.
May ensured that the EU dictated the process whereby the WA had to be signed before they would discuss trade (notwithstanding the Article 50 provisions).
Going forward priority must be given to automated customs procedures and the establishment of equivalence (which the EU don't want to do because they are punishing us).
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
So, the UK government were telling porkies and/or soft ?
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As you continue to choose to bandy about the phrase 'enemy' Could you not consider that the phrase should be directed at the people who signed the deal from the UK side ? are they not an enemy to their country for their failure to deliver?
The no extension argument holds no water, as an extension was available however instead of seeing it as was (a viable option) we ignored it and continued to play brinkmanship.
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I can't find any credible support evidence saying that no deal was an option? There's plenty suggesting it wasn't, including from cabinet ministers at the time of May's government.
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MrM, you must surely see that I am slagging Boris off for getting us into this mess?
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