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**Chris** · 04-05-2021, 13:21

I don't think he stands much chance of achieving that. Labour hasn't been defined by socialist economics for decades now. Its core message has long been socially 'progressive' and what was previously a party for the working class has been hollowed out and filled in by assorted cranks and pressure groups whose aims are at such odds with society as a whole that the '****/awful' sentiment expressed by that admittedly rather blunt satire has begun to have a ring of truth about it. You can't constantly bang on about wanting to radically change everything without sounding like you hate what's already there.

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Chris Trollsplatter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North of Watford Services: Humane elimination of all common Internet pests Posts: 38,220	Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader I don't think he stands much chance of achieving that. Labour hasn't been defined by socialist economics for decades now. Its core message has long been socially 'progressive' and what was previously a party for the working class has been hollowed out and filled in by assorted cranks and pressure groups whose aims are at such odds with society as a whole that the '****/awful' sentiment expressed by that admittedly rather blunt satire has begun to have a ring of truth about it. You can't constantly bang on about wanting to radically change everything without sounding like you hate what's already there.