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Old 13-03-2021, 15:56   #598
RichardCoulter
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Re: Britain outside the EU

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Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
Thank you got this information - however, you didn’t answer the question I raised about this statement

How did you know they were EU migrants,or were you just assuming?
I didn't know that they were Romanian at this particular spot until it was covered on the BBC1 programme. I was surprised to see the BBC criticising immigrants.

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Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
Yeah, our hospital is swamped with foreign Doctors and nurses too. Its outrageous they come over here and provide healthcare.

And those Poles, all they do is build our houses.....
Those that plug gaps in healthcare were (and still are) welcome.

It's the ones that come over & claim benefits or take unskilled work from those that that need a job that were the problem. This also drove down wages for those that werd able go find work, often resulting in increased benefit expenditure.

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
Controlled economic migration is a fantastic thing. It can, and will, continue. It allows us to plug skills gaps without increasing local populations beyond the capacity of services that councils and health authorities plan on a decadal (or longer) basis and can’t easily or quickly change. Most of the plumbing and heating work done in my house over the last 15 years has been done by Poles and Czechs. It can be difficult to get anyone to come out to this remote spot so I’m grateful for their willingness to graft for a living.

However, *uncontrolled* migration within the EU was socially unsustainable, which is why our democracy inevitably rejected it at the first genuine opportunity. The large number of Eastern European beggars on the streets of British cities are testimony to the fact that if you can’t control immigration, along with the economically useful immigrants you simply end up importing other countries’ social problems.
Exactly.

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Originally Posted by Angua View Post
Those payments were down to our own governments rules, nowt to do with being in the EU.
Yes and no. These payments were not intended for this purpose, however, because the EU forbid our Government to treat foreign incomers any different, they had go pay them.

I think that this was one of the reasons why Cameron introduced the Benefits Cap & limited income related payments for children, in all but exceptionally circumstances, to only two.
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