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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Quite. It’s the English that are their perceived problem.
They begged to be part of us a few hundred years ago when they were bankrupt.
What will happen next time they ask, when they realise they can’t make it on their own?
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Scottish people love being told what they think by the English.
Plenty of small countries survive without England, indeed I can’t think of a single country in what used to be Empire desperate to rejoin.
If you think Boris isn’t a factor then you’ve not been paying attention. There’s little united about a kingdom where England (and her voters) get the party they want in power (and as a result policy outcomes) far more than voters in Scotland.
Of course, it’s because English voters know better.
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Originally Posted by Chris
There is some detailed polling here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotla...itics-55803103
The rise in support for independence is not being driven by the completion of Brexit; that was priced in after the 2016 referendum. The way the covid crisis has unfolded and perceptions of how Sturgeon and Boris have handled it are at the root of current polling.
Polls like these are largely driven by emotional considerations. Hard practicalities are faced in the polling booth - this is why opposition parties poll well mid-term and then go on to lose the next election. We all like to believe the grass might be greener but when it’s decision time we need to be pretty sure it is before we take the leap.
The fundamentals that drove the vote in 2014 haven’t changed. Scotland would pay an exorbitant bill for taking itself out of the UK and would face social and economic upheaval in its relationship with England that would make the problems we presently face at the channel ports look like a Wednesday afternoon in Trumpton. Every single argument against Brexit can be levelled against Scexit, except it’s exponentially worse, because Scotland’s economic and social ties to England run far deeper than those of the UK to the EU, while Scotland’s resources deployable in mitigation of the upheaval are far less. Yet these sorts of questions tend not to be addressed by people answering opinion polls. |
Well Scotland were denied the opportunity to pursue a ‘zero covid’ strategy by frothing at the mouth unionists adamant the border must stay open, even though other countries (such as Australia) closed borders between states.
It’s not unreasonable for some to conclude we are unfortunately the siamese twin of incompetent policy makers, regardless of whether public health is devolved or not.
The Scottish position is they are delivering the vaccine to care homes which it stands to reason is slower. The real question is how quickly each gets to the end of the JCVI lists. Of course independence supporters are extremely unlikely to read headlines from unionist papers anyway.