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Old 19-01-2021, 19:13   #476
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Re: Sir Keir Starmer elected as new Labour leader

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Originally Posted by jfman View Post
Indeed. The ONS data indicates a much higher death rate based on death certificates. I suppose country to country comparisons would require some kind of consistency to be helpful but OB has made a very bold claim there about deaths "catching up" considering he thinks a country can successfully both reopen an economy and shield the vulnerable with minimal deaths. Quite the contradiction I'm sure you'd agree.
Well I think things could have been done better, especially as we came into Lockdowns 2 & 3 and before you ask no I don’t have all the alternatives but it surely couldn’t be beyond the wit of man to come up with something more sophisticated than more lockdowns. I’m not a fan of Lockdowns. I think I’ve been consistent on that.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
I'm not sure the data itself is flawed, perhaps the criteria used to define the data could be better?

As jfman indicates, another perhaps more accurate measure is to look at the additional deaths since the first Covid death compared to similar 12-month periods in previous years. But if this generates a higher figure than the 28-day figure then I can understand why the government would prefer the lower figure.

But all of this is incidental to Old Boy's catching-up claim.
Well I think that is what was supposed to be the method as advised during the initial wave.

I would go as far to say 3-5 year average comparisons would probably be better.

Regardless of what the final numbers may be I doubt it’ll tell you much and I doubt comparisons to other countries stats will be helpful either
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