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Originally Posted by Pierre
Julia Hartley-brewer is not anti-vax, and I and most people are not anti-vax. Many people are parents, and only the most stupid don’t vaccinate their kids.
People may be a bit wary of these particular vaccines, and there is nothing wrong with that, at this point.
“Stealing your freedoms” anxiety is totally justified, as you watch videos of people being stopped by, Ill educated, Ill informed, council wombels stopping people running for “breathing too heavily”. It exists, along with the countless heavy handed examples also available of police not knowing how to use their new given ( without parliamentry oversight) powers.
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I didn't intend for that to read as calling JHB anti-vax I'm just pointing out how easy it is for some to be taken along into an alternate reality.
I think it's correct to say that everyone's "freedom" is being curtailed. Many people are being denied the ability to work, socialise, travel as they ordinarily would. It is how it is being portrayed, with emotive terminology, to provoke people to rebel that I have greater issue with. We're all having to sacrifice here - the goal is to get back to 'normal'. However the greater resistance, the more people don't adhere, the longer this will drag on. And we are all worse off for it.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
“Extremely low” a vague and subjective term
A conservative estimate is that at least 20M have been infected by the virus and 87K have died, which is 0.4%. I think that comes under the “Extremely low” banner too.
Or do you mean “very really almost none really bad side affects or deaths low” or are you just guessing because you don’t have any real data yet?
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It is vague and subjective - but also extremely high relative to the healthcare capacity available in most countries.