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Originally Posted by jfman
Take away the hosts is a curious way of phrasing killing more people.
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It also includes those who have attained immunity. So if one of the variants tries to claim a host who has already had the more virulent strain, the individual’s anti-bodies and/or T-cells would fight it off.
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Originally Posted by nomadking
New Zealand appears to have reached a stage of where the virus has "died" out. If everybody else managed that, then worldwide there would be no problem.
Any lockdowns haven't worked because people ARE NOT BEHAVING THEMSELVES.
Although on a bigger scale, your New Zealand example PROVES that lockdowns can work. Self-isolation and controlled access with other countries is equivalent to a household situation.
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NZ is a much smaller country with only a relatively few large population centres, coupled with the fact that not many people travel there.
New Zealanders remain in danger of infection from this virus, particularly the new strain. It only takes one super-spreader to arrive in the country with Covid just recently acquired to set off a chain reaction.
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Still comparable to a household situation. Limit and control(eg mask, social distancing) contact with the outside "world". Enough households doing that will let the virus "die" out.
It needs to pass from A to B to C etc, all within a limited time frame. If it is unable to do that, it "dies" out.
If that wasn't true, then it would've still spread throughout the whole of New Zealand.
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You cannot control the whole of the British population to do that. Even if your idea would work in theory, it would never work in practice.
Did you see how many fines had been handed out to partygoers on today’s news?
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Originally Posted by GrimUpNorth
He's got a point you know.
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What about travellers bringing it back into the country again?
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Originally Posted by Maggy
How about we just trust to the science experts and ignore keyboard warriors who have absolutely no idea what they are re-spouting.
I'm doing as I'm told and staying home and when I get called to be vaccinated I'll be there with my arm bared for the jab.
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Here’s one!
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...ong-will-take/
Marc Lipsitch, professor of Epidemiology at Harvard, has written eloquently on the possibility of reaching herd immunity through vaccination, noting that it is impossible to predict until we know the extent to which the new vaccines prevent transmission.
But he adds: “Sustained herd immunity is not the only value of a vaccine or the only way it could help us return to a more normal life. If high coverage can be achieved in those most at risk of severe outcomes, we could achieve a state where virus continues to circulate but the toll on the health system and the mortality toll is dramatically reduced.”
...Which is pretty well in line with what I’ve been saying all along. Take the vulnerable out of the equation and the problem pretty well disappears and the virus can be left to spread through the healthy population.