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Old 16-12-2020, 11:28   #1025
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Re: Child grooming gang found guilty

What else could be expected when you redefine terms.
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The broad definition of child sexual exploitation in gangs and groups is this:
1) gang – mainly comprising men and boys aged 13 – 25 years old, who take part in many forms of
criminal activity, such as knife crime or robbery, who can engage in violence against other gangs,
and who have identifiable markers such as territory, a name, sometimes clothing etc. While
children can be sexually exploited by a gang, this is not the reason why a gang is formed.
2) By contrast, child sexual exploitation by a group involves people who come together in person
or online for the purpose of setting up, co-ordinating and/or taking part in the sexual exploitation
of children in either an organised or opportunistic way.
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Definition of ‘gangs’ and ‘groups’
This Inquiry is not intended to cover all models of child sexual exploitation. It focuses specifically
on child sexual exploitation linked to gangs and groups (CSEGG). The full definitions for gangs and
groups that have been used in the Inquiry are as follows:
1) Gang: A relatively durable, predominantly street-based, social group of children, young
people and, not infrequently, young adults who see themselves, and are seen by others,
as affiliates of a discrete, named group who (1) engage in a range of criminal activity and
violence, (2) identify or lay claim to territory, (3) have some form of identifying structural
feature, and (4) are in conflict with similar groups.
2) Group: Two or more people of any age, connected through formal or informal associations
or networks, including, but not exclusive to, friendship groups.
If you're going to define a "gang" as mainly being 13-25 years old, then of course the age is going to be under 30.

The "Asian gangs" come under that "group" heading and are very distinct from that definition of "gang". Again, using "Two or more people" as a measure widens the criteria, that is well outside these "Asian gangs".


Don't see how you can equate 2 paedophiles that perhaps met in prison, having just one victim, with a "gang" of 8 people with dozens of victims that are trafficked out to dozens of men. The two are not remotely similar.

The nearest non-"Asian" connection seems to be:-
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Operation Lenten in North Wales started in 2014, following concerns raised by Flintshire Justice Service and Social Services about children going missing and being picked up by vans.
Offenders were known to the police for crimes such as fraud, burglary, and vehicle offences, but not for child sexual abuse and exploitation. Offenders were from a White Traveller background and in contrast to other operations we looked at, offender networks were described by law enforcement partners as tight-knit, and offending as organised rather than opportunistic.
Whilst the base studies. the report is based upon covers a very wide range of situations, it cannot be used as a whole to make these specific comparisons.
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