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Originally Posted by Damien
I wanted to stay in the EU because I feel it's better to be a part of a large economic bloc and single market than not to be. Not because 'they're a nice bunch of people'.
How 'nice' they are is irrelevant. This is diplomacy, not school. They may be nice, they might not. I think they, like us, operate in their own best interests and the extent to which we can get stuff agreed is when those interests align and when they don't you need to bargain and/or try to get your own way over theirs.
This is the same as with any US trade deal. Outside of a few fringe weirdos in the Tory Party who fetishise America the 'Special Relationship' isn't about personal like or not. It's about the fact our two countries share objectives about the world. America will work with us on a trade deal as far as it's in their interests to do so as will we. It's about how 'nice' America is either.
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Is the US planning on making a series of unreasonable demands on the UK or indeed anybody else? Is the EU making unreasonable demands on anybody else, other than the UK?
At NO POINT is the EU arguing for true 2-way cooperation, just a "do as we tell you". There is the crux of the matter.