[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Maybe they do understand, its we that have misunderstood. They're happy to let us go rather than give us the benefits of membership without membership. It's a crazy thing to ask for and they'd be mad to grant it.

No deal clearly isn't an option we've genuinely planned for. Hence Boris rushing to Brussels cap in hand.... Who is chasing who? We've miscalculated.

They’re just doing what they have always done, using “trade” as excuse for other means.

They used “trade” to set up the EEC, and then try to force political Union.

They are now using “trade” again to enforce their political will onto us.

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Originally Posted by jonbxx

Well it's looking more and more like no deal is coming. Considering Boris Johnson said that this would be a 'failure of statecraft for which we would all be responsible' is his position tenable going forward?

Absolutely. I would rather he walk away then sell us out, that I would find untenable.