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Old 16-10-2020, 23:27   #4235
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20

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Originally Posted by nomadking View Post
The bill would only have to acted upon, in the event of the EU not following the NI protocol. That stipulates that the EU has to come to an agreement on several matters. As they haven't, THEY would be breaking the "international agreement".
I'm afraid that the best legal minds in the country disagree with you.

Meanwhile, this is what looks likely to me.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
Andrew, you really are short on argument here.

Of course, as you say, the current situation gives you no pleasure. You are a Remainer who has quoted currency values that you prefer to have kept.

But you skilfully avoid to date to provide any view as to what Boris should now agree to in current state of negotiation given that we are not EU members. So I'll ask some questions that I hope you will answer with no weasel wording.

1. Should we allow the EU to retain current fishing rights in UK waters?

2. Should we agree to a "level playing field" that chains us to EU rules?

3. Should we allow the ECJ to make binding rulings on the UK?

Can you manage that please?


I'm long on facts and short on emotion which is the counter-part to my previous discussant. The curency value impacts the wealth of the country and its ability to invest in education, the armed forces, healthcare and the technologies of the future. It's not an abstract figure.

My answer to all of the above questions is that it depends what we get in return.

All to play for at the car plants with new models on hold at Sunderland and Ellesmere Port delayed pending Boris giving the EU a good deal. And BMW is ceasing MINI production in the Netherlands in 2024 so potentially some of that could find its way to Cowley. Let's hope Boris doesn't revert to his F-business mindset.

What I think is in the capability of the UK govenment is:
1. Arrange for a staggered wind-down to new fishing arrangements.
2. Agree to a level playing field as in practice it won't have any on the UK as we are a rich country with no recent history of significant interevention in industry.
3. Come up with a compromise on the ECJ.
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