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Originally Posted by Mad Max
No I'm not, so you're saying that all those people crammed on beaches doesn't have an effect on the spread of the virus? Outdoors does lessen the effect of the spread, I will agree on that, but when you have so many people close together like that i'd say you are still at significant risk, It's you who is trying to justify your outrageous claim that hundreds of thousands of people will die, so tell me this, why haven't hundreds and thousands of people died in the last six months?
Let's just see if all those being infected at the moment start filling up the hospitals and dying, I think not in my opinion.
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Mitigation. Which in your post above you have agreed has had significant effects.
You’re only at significant risk on a beach if others on said beach are carrying the virus AND you are in close contact with them for a period of time. When the numbers were driven low in the summer it was statistically unlikely that you’d encounter a person at the beach with the virus, and statistically unlikely you’d catch it from them in an outdoor setting.
It’s already acknowledged that those carrying the infections at the moment are in the lower risk age group. They cannot be reliably isolated in the medium to long term from their wider families or from their older colleagues, especially in the absence of an effective test, trace, isolate regime. It’s inevitable then the virus will be in care homes and hospitals.
In uncontrolled, unmitigated circumstances exponential growth is inevitable, the NHS overwhelmed and that means deaths. I don’t think you disagree with that statement. It’s wishful thinking that the events of Italy in February won’t happen here if we did/do nothing. The only variable is the mitigation.