Thread: UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal
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Old 14-09-2020, 19:29   #3871
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Originally Posted by jonbxx View Post
Because this is not like supporting a football team where one side can do no wrong and the other side is the 'enemy'. I get the feeling sometimes (not from you I might add) That getting one over on Johnny Foreigner is more important than doing well ourselves.

A mutually beneficial deal with the minimum of disruption is my ideal end game and, if either side are putting in place things to disrupt this, then I will call it out.

Idealist, I know...
No, this is a choice between giving what the electorate voted for rather than the alternative. Barnier is standing in the way, and threatening not to give us a no tariff free trade deal, as per the political declaration.

Given that the treaty was based on the premise that we would get such a deal, it stands to reason that if the EU is now acting in bad faith and reneging on this, we need to make some adjustments to the treaty.

These adjustments are actually relatively very minor indeed and not worth making such a fuss about.

And if the EU honour what they promised us, there will be no need to adjust the treaty.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
I think BoJo could have tried to take the moral high ground but he blew it with the current bill that his own ministers admit breaks international law, albeit in a specific and limited way. It means the EU will be less likely to concede ground and is a poor political judgment. He's now left with the tricky task of bullying his own MPs into backing him whilst the party's original Eurosceptics like Michael Howard condemn his reputation-damaging approach.

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No deal and no WA means a hard border between NI and Eire which breaks the Good Friday Agreement.
Whilst neither the EU or UK wants a hard border, membership of the WTO would mandate this.
BoJo's current WA places a border between GB and NI.
And there will be no such problem if the EU give us a no tariff trade deal, either. Trust you to bat for the other side! Just as well this isn't a real war...
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