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Old 14-09-2020, 10:05   #5551
jfman
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Re: Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
You are speculating yourself, and you are also, as ever, stretching what other people say to suit your strange views of what is happening.

Let's get one thing clear. I am certainly not saying there won't be a second wave. I have merely said that if it is true that if the late lockdown resulted in our reaching the same peak of the virus that we would have reached anyway, we may avoid a second wave anywhere near as extreme as the first one. That makes sense.

However, equally, it may not be so, and in fact although there was no lockdown with the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, there was still a devastating second wave.

I have been consistent in saying that this virus is going nowhere, and if we have not yet reached herd immunity, it will be back, lockdowns or no lockdowns.

Your solution is to lock us all up and hide ourselves away. For years! What kind of nonsense is that? If you want to lock yourself up, be my guest!

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Oh, so now you are not saying that we should lock down until a vaccine is found! I'm glad we've sorted that out.

So, what is your solution to this problem, jfman? If you are not going for the herd immunity solution and you are not going for a long lockdown, then what are you saying?
Again you are misrepresenting my post - nowhere did I say 'until a vaccine is found'.

I think we've fundamentally got to the heart of the problem - you simply read what you want and ignore context, fact and reality to suit your agenda to fully reopen the economy regardless of the impact on human life.

If I trawled the internet seeking to find spurious evidence I could find 'evidence' for almost anything. It doesn't make those positions reality no matter how much you wish them to be. The response to the virus has to be grounded in science and reality.

Good luck in the second wave Old Boy. I hope the stock exchange doesn't fall too much.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
I think you are stretching it, Hugh. Ok, it's a theory, but it is still evidence to support what I was saying.

True, the two articles that were produced did not come from me because someone beat me to it, but it was the second of those articles I was referring to in my original post.
Not peer reviewed evidence. Magnificent. Wait there while I go around shaking hands with everyone I meet.
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