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Originally Posted by jfman
It’s speculation to assume that we are far down the road to “herd immunity” on the basis of this, in particular why the UK would benefit from it but not however Spain, Italy, France or other countries embarking on their second wave.
Wishful thinking in my book.
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It’s wild speculation. And nobody, anywhere, has suggested locking everyone down forever. Misrepresenting my posts is second only to your skill in not evidencing your own.
I do agree however that there’s little value in continuing a debate with you on the topic if you persist in following wishful thinking above science. The virus doesn’t care for your politics, your stiff upper lip or English exceptionalism. We’re playing by the same rules as everyone else.
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You are speculating yourself, and you are also, as ever, stretching what other people say to suit your strange views of what is happening.
Let's get one thing clear. I am certainly not saying there won't be a second wave. I have merely said that
if it is true that if the late lockdown resulted in our reaching the same peak of the virus that we would have reached anyway, we may avoid a second wave anywhere near as extreme as the first one. That makes sense.
However, equally, it may not be so, and in fact although there was no lockdown with the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, there was still a devastating second wave.
I have been consistent in saying that this virus is going nowhere, and if we have not yet reached herd immunity, it will be back, lockdowns or no lockdowns.
Your solution is to lock us all up and hide ourselves away. For years! What kind of nonsense is that? If you want to lock yourself up, be my guest!
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Oh, so now you are not saying that we should lock down until a vaccine is found! I'm glad we've sorted that out.
So, what is your solution to this problem, jfman? If you are not going for the herd immunity solution and you are not going for a long lockdown, then what
are you saying?