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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
The number of tests continues to increase and that is what is causing a higher number in the statistics. Reduce the testing and guess what? The numbers come down again.
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That's funny because the Chief Medical Officer for the United Kingdom said a mere two hours ago that the prevalence of the virus is up, and that's causing positives to rise across all age groups.
I'm wondering who is more likely to be right -
open the economy at all costs
Old Boy or the Chief Medical Officer? Hmmm....
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You are the one who is confused, jfman. My post made perfect sense to anyone who actually read it properly.
You are digging up old arguments with the seasonal issue. All I did last spring was to speculate that if this virus behaved the same way as flu, it should die off in the summer, but it soon became clear that the virus was spreading very rapidly in both hot and cold countries.
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You engaged in speculative nonsense - as you have throughout - to justify your nonsensical position of reopening the economy at all costs. It was apparent then that the virus was already spreading in climates aligned to a North European summer.
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Yes, many of us called it flu - it is similar in a lot of ways. But we all now know the differences, and the impact any new virus or strain of virus can have.
What do you mean, there is no evidence that we won't go into a second wave? Admittedly, we could do, but I've already pointed out that a mathematician has calculated that our late lockdown could have had benefits for us in that respect. It's only a theory, but it is evidence. If we do get a second wave, it proves that this virus is going nowhere and lockdowns, in the end, are futile.
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A mathematician? Who?
Again the Chief Medical Officer of the United Kingdom has pointed out that our trajectory is clearly on the up, and mirrors other European countries at round -4 weeks. Again who is more likely to be right here? Him, and a Government that are heeding his advice, or your 'mathematician?
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A permanent lockdown is not on, and it won't happen. However, one bit of good news for you. If you want to lockdown yourself, you can do so for as long as you like. No-one is stopping you. Let me know if you need any padlocks. 
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In your opinion a lockdown is not on, however it's an emergency brake and if the situation deteriorates - which it will without intervention - then it's inevitable. You will note that Matt Hancock didn't rule it out, nor has Boris Johnson.
Now what's the track record of your opinions here, Old Boy?
While you are right that the good news for me that I can limit my interactions with other people, save on my commute, coffees, muffins. I can now meet colleagues socially on a voluntary basis in the pub on a Friday night rather than be forced into open plan offices to engage with them. Might even do the pub quiz tomorrow too.
That's bad news for the economy Old Boy. It'll remain the case. There's no going back to the old normal without resolving the virus issue. Bad news for those on furlough. Bad news for city centre property developers. Those burying their heads in the sand hoping to leap from one quick fix to another with failure after failure will eventually look back and see that they were wrong. What are we £210bn and a recession in? Boris and his moonshot have been priced at £110bn to do that level of testing for 12 months. We couldn't afford lockdown though.
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