Thread: UK & EU Agree Post-Brexit Trade Deal
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Old 08-09-2020, 09:10   #3580
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Re: Brexit-Transitional Period Ends 31/12/20
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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
I said it before that the nature of how politics is in this country and with what was promised means the U.K Government isn't in a position to make concessions. It was true a year ago and it's in true today. Everything has been ramped up to such a level than any concession towards the EU would be portrayed as a betrayal.

Boris Johnson and the Government have tried for an EU deal entirely on our terms and it isn't working.

People will cheer this round but the same problem with crop up with any other trade deal.
Other trade deals will not carry an expectation that we sign up to the laws of their countries and give up our territorial waters!

Several trade deals are nearing completion, including Australia and Japan. No such problems with them.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
The calculation is not about the need of the country. It's about what will keep BoJo in power a bit longer.
Damien's post explains the situation rationally and quite clearly.
Wrong again. It's about honouring the result of the EU referendum and carrying out the clear mandate of the government.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
To add - I hope that this analysis is wrong. I hope BoJo does what he did before, namely concede at the last minute. He can concede on a level playing field and be seen to win on fishing, thus allowing the Express to declare victory. Farage will continue to moan, naturally, but he has carved a niche career out of doing so.
A level playing field equates to taking EU laws, it seems. That ain't going to happen.

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
I'm saying here that the space for a deal is on agreeing to a level playing field. This is my optimistic scenario as we can't fight geoeconomics so will have to do something similar anyway at some stage so why worsen our suffering economy? The pessimistic scenario is as outlined by Damien with Boris too afraid to take on the hardine Brexiters in his party.
But it's not a basis for a deal! This puts us in a worse place than being part of the EU!! Why can you not see that?

We will not be a slave to the EU, and if that's what you believe, you are sadly mistaken. The British people will not stand for that.

You are, it seems, obsessed with geoeconomics, which is not as relevant as it used to be. The EU is convenient as it is close, but it is not the be all and end all.

Sorry, Andrew, but your scenario is not optimistic at all - it is defeatist.
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