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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
The EU's not asking for an extension and we're all leavers now. It's not the 2016 contest all over again, it's about putting us in a better decision to negotiate and handle Covid, not giving into anyone.
We rank poorly with most of our Western European peers for Covid 19. Ireland's had an app for months, for example.
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Except you, Andrew! We have, in fact, continued to negotiate, but the EU is standing firm with their red lines, as are we! Neither side is going to move until the eleventh hour, and moving that eleventh hour will achieve nothing.
When the EU realise we are not giving in, because we will be an independent nation, it will have to agree or lose the fishing rights that they want, and increased tariffs will result in less demand for their products.
As far as coronavirus is concerned, that is irrelevant and the constant chant of Britain being behind the curve is premature and nonsensical. It is far too early to judge who got the policy right and who failed. Those countries who shut everyone away earlier have been congratulating themselves on their foresight. What if they now get an aggressive second wave and we avoid it? Who would have had the correct policies in place then?
As for the casualty statistics, these vary significantly in terms of accuracy. We've been recording everything. Other countries are only recording certain coronavirus casualties (eg those who have died in hospital). It is naive and unprofessional to compare figures in this way when all countries have different recording criteria.
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Exactly, we've moved on from fantasy football to fantasy negotiating!
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We can't afford to find out the hard way and BoJo knows this. Extension or capitulation.
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That is not a Brexiteer's view of the position.